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Lost
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:33 pm Post subject: Panda Cloud Antivirus |
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http://www.cloudantivirus.com/
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/computer...irus_N.htm
Panda Wednesday becomes the first consumer antivirus supplier to centralize this filtering and updating routine — by moving it into a data center sitting in the Internet cloud. To tap into this free service, you download a small pop-up dashboard from www.cloudantivirus.com.
Looks interesting. I know nothing about it.
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digger
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 14:20 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like a bad idea.
Maybe it's OK for preventative purposes, but once a virus is running on your machine, connecting it to the internet is last thing you want to do.
Also, antivirus is slow enough without putting remote servers into the loop. |
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plodr
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 13:09 pm Post subject: |
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I concur; bad idea. If I suspect a computer is compromised - the first thing I do is disable all internet access. If I'm not sure how to do it, the easiest way is to pull the RJ plugs from the back of the computer.
I have malwarebytes on a USB stick and I run that first. It does a pretty good cleanup job. Then I connect to the internet and try some more tools. |
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degarb

Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 467 Location: The Distant Side of Reality
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:39 am Post subject: |
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I was reading reviews. It looks like pcmagazine rates panda cloud as the best free protection up there with norton. Malwarebytes did pretty bad.
Also, people say panda idea is way lighter than traditional signature methods. Also, the very idea of signature means that file can grow to infinity. Panda, pushes the signature to cloud and they analyze it. This mean you do not need to wait until a developer writes the signature.
Another one is immunet. Which is even lighter than panda, with more reliance on behaviour, like threatfire. Though pcmag doesn't give immunet as good of a rating. However, the more people that use immunet, the better the signature protection gets, so pcmag review maybe out dated. Immunet uses between 8 and 22 megs of ram best I can tell. I installed threatfire (and bufferzone pro) with zero noticeable impact, while with immunet I see some quirky behavior. Time will tell. _________________ Thnx. But really, adulation isn't required.
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Boz
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Corrine
 Administrator Joined: 18 Jan 2001 Posts: 13529 Location: Upstate, NY
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 20:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'll stick with ESET and MSE for now. I have ESET installed on one computer & MSE on another. So far, they're working well for me.
Panda Cloud got a better review on PC Mag than Immunet: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2365093,00.asp
See http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/20...cloud.aspx
| Quote: | The Microsoft Malware Protection Center has been tracking a recent threat that attacks cloud-based antivirus technology provided by popular major antivirus software vendors in China. The malware is named Win32/Bohu (TrojanDropper:Win32/Bohu.A).
The Bohu malware is native to the China region. Bohu attracts user installation by social engineering techniques, for example, using attractive file names and dropping a fake video player named “Bohu high-definition video player”. The more interesting part of Bohu is that the malware blocks cloud-based services now commonly featured in major Chinese antivirus products. Specifically, Bohu uses a number of different techniques in order to attempt to thwart Cloud-based AV technologies.
Cloud-based virus detection generally works by client sending important threat data to the server for backend analysis, and subsequently acquiring further detection and removal instruction. The process can take seconds to minutes, and is designed to remove malware not handled by the traditional on-the-box signature approach.
Bohu tries to sever the communication between cloud client and server, and constantly modify file content of its components, in order to evade detection from cloud-based scanning. Bohu is part of the first wave of malware that specifically targets cloud-based antivirus technology.
Jingli Li, Zhitao Zhou |
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degarb

Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 467 Location: The Distant Side of Reality
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 18:50 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't like the panda cpu spikes, so went back to immunet. But since avira is light too added that, and added threatfire since that is pretty nil too, and added bufferzone since that is nil too. On 1.6 netbook with gig ram and 2 ghz/1gig ram desktop.
Time only tells with these things. You can't really tell if they are working, with today's xp firewall and win 7 firewall. Unless, you start using an unsafe browser, and start installing dubious stuff from crack sites. I guess it is off to the porn/crack sites to test my new security setup. ...
... (1 minute later.) Back now. I am not brave enough, I guess to risk my machine. Corrine, can we use yours? I saw one youtube tester test MSE with Immunet and threatfire layered. MSE didnt pop up once on about a dozen intentional virus installs but TF and Immunet kept poping up to block them. They blocked all, but allowed some code to install, just not execute. Still, wouldn't a gun be easier than all this layered protection? What is a good pc compatible fire arm? _________________ Thnx. But really, adulation isn't required.
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plodr
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 19:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I am not brave enough, I guess to risk my machine. Corrine, can we use yours? | That's a bit rude! If a site scares you, stay away from it; don't expect someone else to their's so you can test something. |
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degarb

Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 467 Location: The Distant Side of Reality
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 19:14 pm Post subject: |
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| plodr wrote: | [..]
That's a bit rude! If a site scares you, stay away from it; don't expect someone else to their's so you can test something. |
Joking, naturally. My comment only implies my respect for her knowledge from prolonged reading about the subject.
I suspect guys like languy99 all test viruses on a vitualbox where the virtual machine can be immediately deleted or restored from a non infected snapshot. _________________ Thnx. But really, adulation isn't required.
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