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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 20:15 pm    Post subject: Linux Manual For starters. Reply with quote

THE FIRST FIVE PAGES OF THIS THREAD SHOULD SUFFICE FOR LINUX STARTERS.
HOWEVER, THE REST OF THE POSTS ARE ALSO INTERESTING/IMPORTANT.
(Above Added, Sunday Sept 12, 2004)


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Rute's Linux Tutorial
 http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz 

I was informed that Linux is freeware and that most Linux software is also Freeware. My interest in freeware paved the path for me to learn the basics of Linux.

This link is from the main Linux Site  www.linux.org 
 http://www.ibiblio.org/mdw/LDP/gs/node1.html 

There is so much to learning Linux. I saved this document in as a Lotus word document, copying and pasting each chapter. It goes to 277 pages !!! However, it is not like just reading a book. There is so much logic to it. By the way, this manual is just a quick start guide with just the BASICS to get quick, up and running. There are a lot more details involved. Starting, Installing and Using Linux is certainly a long term project and not for the faint of heart. Just sharing the info. I got here.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 21:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To read the 277 page manual at 10 pages per day will take a month.

However, the book on mastering Red Hat below is 912 pages.
 Click Here for Mastering Red Hat Linux Book 

Reading at the rate of 100 pages per day with some breaks, it is almost 10 days. Installing the OS, getting used to it and tweaking it will probably take another 2 weeks atleast. So getting comfortable with Linux is ATLEAST a one month project.

More, advanced books/manuals go upto 3000 pages.

Manuals say that HD space of between 400megs upto 3Gigs or even 6 Gigs can be usedup by Linux these days when completely installed. This gives a clear picture of the time/efforts needed in learning Linux.

  Click Here for Linux For Dummies 

 CLICK HERE GREAT STUFF - Red Hat Linux Getting Started Guide 

 Click Here for Red Hat Linux All Manuals 

Another Great Newbie Tutorial:
 http://www.patchtechs.com/mirror/lnag/index.html 

Learn to Work Linux Comands at this site
 http://www.ctssn.com/ 


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 21:33 pm    Post subject: Linux advantage. Reply with quote

99% of all virii are windows viruses and therefore are ineffective in
linux. Grin

The above is also true for Linux. Grin

So instead of downloading and discussing all these Security issues in detail, searching for freeware installing them, trying to find system resources etc., It might be worthwhile to learn Linux. Grin

However, the benefits don't stop just there. Most software for Linux is free as well. Grin

Several local user groups support Linux. Here is one local to me  http://mlug.ca/faq/  Check out on Google for Linux User Groups close to your locality.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 23:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got this from my local user group site:
Packages make it easy to install and use Linux. For a start, a package is OK. Best package currently seems to be Mandrake. Here is why:
 http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/concept.php3 
A computer running the Mandrake Linux operating system can be as easy to use as a computer which uses Windows or Mac OS -- a fact which has been Confirmed by many IT publications.


For personal home PC use this is the best product:
 http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/91/standard 

[url=http://www.camelot.ca/en/search.html?session_id=da62ce436b1d60334d25b9a2dd92bf99&orig_language=en&orig_delta=15&start=1&hidden_words=linux&hidden_datafile=catalogue&hidden_section=LO&hidden_section=JE&hidden_language=L-A&words=linux&submit=Search&catagorie=283§ion=LO&level=N-0&language=L-A&cover=C-0&c_delta=100&listing=short]A Local Supplier: [/url]

This seems to have gotten quite easier than what I had earlier thought. Grin However, it is safe to assume there will be some issues and not expect a smooth and fast transition.

Here is a good Online Linux Users Group:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/ 

Another Great Linux User Group:  http://www.linuxhelpnetwork.net/forums/ 

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you know someone with a cable connection, you can download most Linux versions at  www.linuxiso.org  and burn them to a CD.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you just want to surf and do email, most linux distributions work fine once you get them installed without reading anything. For somebody just wanting to try Linux without changing anything on your hardrive, go find a copy of Knoppix Linux on cd. If your computer has at least 80 to 90 mb of ram memory (more memory is better) you can run it from the cd (actually runs in the ram memory and accesses the highly compressed files on the cd). No installation per se is necessary. However you will need to either re-enter all your isp info and bookmark info etc everytime you reboot or you will need to store the info on a floppy which then can be accessed at bootup. Works great. Most settings are automatic but for some reason it assumes you have large modern high resolution monitor by default. Since my 17inch monitor got blasted by lightening, I have been using a really old 15inch monitor. With Knoppix, I have to enter extra command to use 800x600 resolution. Otherwise I get a triplet image on my screen. I never did find a way to make it automatically use this setting. Maybe by recompiling and reburning the cd, but thats alot of hassle to avoid a 5 second nuisance. Knoppix can be optionally installed to hardrive, but for some reason not as nice that way.

Now if you want to install to hardrive, I recommend Mandrake, Lycoris, or Elx for newbies. I have been using Elx last few months. Its based on Redhat and thus has a few of the Redhat quirks, but with a very little tweaking to avoid some annoying settings, it is very friendly. Mandrake though has easiest and best installer. I personally like the Mandrake 8.x versions better than the newer 9.x versions. Hey if you really want a challenge, there is always EvilEntity Linux (gothic theme). It will make you learn to do lot of things manually although its a good stable distribution. The author definitely has an "attitude". Ironic name, I always thought windows was the evil entity.

Oh, those distributions that want huge amount of disk space usually also include a great deal of software. Much of this is optional in the install. This can be a real nice thing though. Installing software is Linux achilles heel. Linux software can have a lot of dependencies. If you want to install a piece of generic linux software, you may first have to go hunting for and installing various libraries and other dependencies that software requires. It would be kinda like having to go tracking down bunch of dll's every time you wanted to install some windows software. If you already have the software on the cd, it will also include any required dependencies. Also it usually all is rpm package (or Deb package for Debian based linux distributions) so installs lot easier than manual installation.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks TAD. That is helpful to know. If I come across someone with a Cable connection, they might perhaps be able to help me.

Here is a post from a Linux Pro
Linux still isn't easy. It is a completely different world from
windows. If you are afraid of User profiles and passwords in Windows,
Linux will be a bit of a shock. If you think the registry is geeky try
learning the what chmod 755 means. While Linux is getting user more and
more user friendly all the time, it is still much geekier then windows
(this from a professional geek who uses Linux on regular basis).

Don't expect to become proficient in Linux in just a month or two. Be
prepared to ruin your couple of Linux installs.

One major tip, do NOT under any circumstances run everything as root.
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If you are willing to install everything yourself without the manuals/support, here is a site where you can get Mandrake CD's at a very cheap price. All manuals can also be downloaded from here:

 http://www.uselinuxathome.com/ENgetmdk.htm 

There are more such sites on the net.

Which Distro is Better ?
 http://www.distrowatch.com/ 

Linux Today
 http://linuxtoday.com/ 

And this is a more simple Demo version that boots from the CD itself. A great learning tool for starters I heard.
 http://www.knoppix.net/ 

I just heard about Mini Linux, There are several out there:
 http://www.undercoverdesign.com/dosghost/dos/mlinux.asp#top 

Damn Small Linux (50MB)
 http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ 

More Small Versions:
 http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/KnoppixCustomizations 
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More Starters

 http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html.gz 

Linux Server of Google:
 http://www.google.com/linux 

 http://www.linux.ca/ 

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 13:46 pm    Post subject: More Interesting Linux info ... Reply with quote

Free Linux CD by Mail - Canada:  http://freelinuxcd.ca/?page=getcd 

Comparison of Different Ditro's/Versions:  http://easylinuxguide.com/ 

 Myth Vs. Reality 

Linux Commands
 http://www.unixguide.net/linux/linuxshortcuts.shtml 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 18:11 pm    Post subject: Linux Mega Resource of Links. Reply with quote

I had to go thru a lot of trouble/time to learn several basic things about Linux. FL is a great resource, I have benefitted a lot from all the info. here. Hence, instead of just keeping all this helpful Linux info. to myself, I have also decided to share it here for anyone else who might be interested in the future. FL is growing and with increasing viruses etc., more people are expected to choose Linux.
Moderators, feel free to edit this list if needed for better presentation.

Vijay

Note: Some of the links below maybe old/invalid. However, searching for them in Google etc., with the subject might bring them up. This is a true resource that I got from another Linux enthusiast after several requests.


http--www.copyleft.co.nz-discs.html

Linux-Mandrake Home

linux.box

Linux Survival - where learning Linux is easy - linux howto, linux tutorial, linux help, free
computer training, linux training

LinuxWorld - Putting Linux to Work

Linux PR Macmillan USA Announces the Release of Linux for Windows

LinuxLookup.com Guides Streaming MP3 Server

Linux Online - Linux Lessons

Lycos Computers Help & How-To

The Duke of URL - Software - Beginner's Guide to Linux Apps

Linux Installation Strategies

ZDNet Site of the Month Linux2order.com

Beginners.co.uk - Online Learning Resource

TechTutorials Free tutorials for the I.T. Professional.

The GIMP Homepage

About.com http--www.suse.com-index_us.html

Focus on Linux - Putting Linux to Work Part 1, Overview

Linux Today - Linux News On Internet Time.

TUCOWS Linux Distributions

Information and Links

Linux Gazette Front Page

Planet Mirror Home

Welcome to LinuxFocus

Linux CD Order Form

Help-Site Computer Manuals - Linux

Josh's GNU-Linux Guide

ZDNet Help & How-To Linux

IDG.net

Linux Hardware Database

Downloader for X

GNOME Transfer Manager home page

ProZilla News

Comparison of Linux Distributions

Mandrake Campus

Winmodems are not modems; Linux information page

LINUXWORLD Welcome to LinuxWorld!

Humorix All Linux Humor. All Copied Mottos. All the Time.

Mandrake Linux 8.0 Updates

MUO - Installation - Index

linuxhelp.dyndns.org

ComUSolv.com Skills Center

MandrakeUser.Org

Index of -pub-mandrake

Linux Orbit - Linux on the desktop You bet.

LILO mini-HOWTO

Linux.com Learn HOWTOs - From DOS-Windows to Linux HOWTO Files and Programs

Linux Newbie Guide Resources, Help And Links

Linuxiso.org -- Linux iso images for RedHat, Mandrake, SuSE, Debian, Caldera, TurboLinux, FreeBSD,
etc.

LinuxPrinting.org

Webmin

Welcome to Linuxnewbie.org Wanna learn Linux

Jumbo Linux Files, Utilities, OS Updates and Programming Software

Extended Operating System Loader

Linux Documentation Project

LinuxStart

LinuxStart Newbies-Tutorials

Toronto Linux User Group - Comprehensive Web Pages

Woven Goods for Linux

Linux Journal

LUG Home Page

ProZilla - ZDNet Linux Downloads

Welcome to Filipe's HTTP Server

Linux.com Articles - Linux.com Beginners Week Linux.com Top Pick of Beginners Web Sites

K Desktop Environment Home (kde.org)

CD-Rom Control for Linux - ZDNet Linux Downloads

Articles

LinuxDevices.com - the embedded Linux portal Home View

Linux Magazine DEPARTMENTS GURU GUIDANCE

Linux Links - The Linux Portal

LINUX SYSTEM ADMINSTRATION REFRESHER COURSE

Lee Holmes Contact Information (Email, PGP, ICQ)

LinuxQuestions.org Forums - where Linux newbies come for help

Ximian Inc

Living Without Microsoft XPloring the alternatives

Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers

[Linux DaveCentral] - welcome to Linux DaveCentral, Linux Software Archive

YoLinux Index of Linux Tutorials

Linux tutorials,free games,books,comics - HardcoreLinux

developerWorks Linux Education Tutorials - Title

eLinux

Open Directory - Computers Software Operating Systems Linux

O'Reilly Network Linux Tutorials [November 17, 2001]

Linux Links - The Linux Portal Docs-Tutorials

SoftLandIndia - Linux Tutorials

The Linux Gurus - The Linux Help Site

Linux.ie Tutorials

Tutorial Main Page

LinuxPowered.com - The choice for online linux knowledge.

LinuxLots- Main page

All Things Linux - Tutorials

Linux Journal - The Premiere Magazine of the Linux Community

Linuxdot.org

Tutorials Linux Guide

DEVSEEK Operating Systems Linux Tutorials

UNIX Tutorial Absolute Beginner to Linux Expert in 10 Lessons

Linux Headquarters

Linux

Linux.com Interact Links - Documentation Tutorials

ReactiveLinux.com - Another Nifty Linux Site

Peacemkr's Linux Bookmarks

Linux From Scratch

Lindows.com

LWN.net weekly edition

Mastering Linux

DesktopLinux.com ... join the Desktop Linux revolution! Home View

MemoWare - The PDA Document Repository

linuxpower.org -- Links

Linux Today - Opera 6.0 for Linux Technology Preview Released

Mandrake User - Main

Linux StepByStep

xinetd

Linux-tips.net

VirtualDr - The answers you need to succeed.

Computing.Net

DesktopLinux.com ... join the Desktop Linux revolution! Articles View Full text

Linux Programming

Linux-Easy.com Development

Linux Information Portal YoLinux.com Help and Information

FindTutorials - Tutorials

LinuxDiscussions

FirstLinux - the Linux meta-site

Linux Tips & Tricks section email

Welcome to LTT Linux Tips & Tricks

Howstuffworks

Crash Recovery Kit for Linux

Online Troubleshooting Resources HOWTO

Start Linux - Your Guide to Starting Linux

Welcome to LinuxSelfhelp.com!

Linux Resources

AbiWord Supported Platforms

www.openoffice.org

CanadaComputes.com

Ximian Products Ximian Evolution

DAP Homepage

XnView viewer & CLOE raytracing

FreeBSD Services - Because there is an alternative ...

ONLamp.com Big Scary Daemons [January 16, 2002]

Linux Today - Evolution 1.0.1 Released

Linux Today - Eric S. Raymond Aunt Tillie builds a kernel

RPM Wizard

theKompany.com Projects Aethera Download

www.plus24.com

Welcome to Elx Linux

Open Channel Foundation Information

Eric Raymond's FAQ collection



Linux

2000Trainers.com Linux Home - http://www.2000trainers.com/linux/

AlsaPlayer - New Type Of PCM Player - - http://www.icewalk.com/softlib/app/app_00503.html

Booting Single-User Mode -
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/s1-rescuemode-booting-single.ht
ml

Chapter 4. Installation instructions - http://www.kde.org/documentation/faq/install.html

DesktopLinux.com ... Join the Desktop Linux revolution! Articles View Full text -
http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT9432210702.html

DestinationLinux - The Source for All Your Linux Needs - http://www.destinationlinux.com/home.php

DNS2Go for the Home User - http://dns2go.deerfield.com/home/

Download.com - http://download.com.com/1200-2002-923744.html?tag=st.sw.dd_txt.xpro-txt.ba_xp

FirstLinux - the Linux meta-site - http://www.firstlinux.com/

Get It Now - http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/7/download.jsp?x=61&y=6

ibiblio linux archive - http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/

ITtoolbox Linux News Headline - http://linux.ittoolbox.com/news/dispnews.asp?i=71195

ITtoolbox Linux - http://linux.ittoolbox.com/

Kernel links - http://jungla.dit.upm.es/~jmseyas/linux/kernel/hackers-docs.html

Knowledge Base -- LINUXPeerPublishing -
http://linux.ittoolbox.com/browse.asp?c=LINUXPeerPublishing&r=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Elinuxorbit%2Ecom%2F
modules%2Ephp%3Fop%3Dmodload%26name%3DSections%26file%3Dindex%26req%3Dviewarticle%26artid%3D470

Linux Digest - Linux on the desktop Try KDE 3 -
http://www.computeruser.com/articles/2106,4,43,1,0601,02.html

Linux Gazette Front Page - http://www.linuxgazette.com/index.html

Linux Journal - The Premier Magazine of the Linux Community -
http://www.linuxjournal.com/helpdesk.php

Linux Orbit - Server or desktop, GNU-Linux just works -
http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=10

Linux Package Guide @FirstLinux - http://www.firstlinux.com/package/

Linux PR AbiWord 1.0 Released - http://linuxpr.com/releases/4759.html

Linux Software Map - http://www.boutell.com/lsm/

Linux Today - Evolution 1.0.5 Released -
http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-13-014-26-NW-DT-GN

Linux - http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=linux

LinuxBasis - Distributions Drivers Howtos Downloads Security News Books - http://www.linuxbasis.com/

Linuxdot - Linux news - http://www.linuxdot.org/

LinuxISO.org - A place to learn about, download, and discuss Linux. - http://www.linuxiso.org/

LINUXWORLD Welcome to LinuxWorld! - http://www.linuxworld.com/

Lycos Help & How-To - http://howto.lycos.com/lycos/cl/1,,9+47,00.html

Mailing list information - http://www.linuxchix.org/content/docs/listinfo.html#women

Mandrake Linux Documentation - http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fdoc.php3

monolinux - http://qhcf.net/~eric/modules/news/article.php?storyid=118

Mozilla 1.0 - http://www.mozilla.org/releases/stable.html

MUO - DocSection - Connectivity - http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/index.html#ss

Ocean Park Linux Configuration Notes - http://oceanpark.com/notes/linux_configuration.html

OpenOffice.org Office Suite - Jumbo! Business -
http://www.jumbo.com/business/files.asp?x_fileid=201620

O'Reilly Network Directory of Linux Commands [March 15, 2002] - http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/

redhat.com Download - http://www.redhat.com/apps/download/

sisob's Linux eXPerience Home - http://sisob.dyndns.org/

Software.Linux.Com - http://software.linux.com/browse/342/?topic=340,342

SOT Office - http://www.sot.com/en/linux/soto/

SuSE Linux - http://www.sheflug.co.uk/suse.htm

The Axis of Time. C, Java, Linux, and witicisms from a caffeine addict. - http://www.axisoftime.com/

The bright, sunlit intersection of Linux and Main - http://linuxandmain.com/

The Linux Spot Welcome to the Revolution - http://www.thelinuxspot.com/

The Mandrake eXPerience - http://mdkxp.by-a.com/

UNIX Tutorial Absolute Beginner to Linux Expert in 10 Lessons - http://www.ctssn.com/

Welcome to LinuxApps - If you can't find it here, you won't find it anywhere !! -
http://www.linuxapps.com/?page=ratcat&category=util
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 14:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From another thread, also posting it here for continuity and convenient reference.

Vijay


Linux is free but needs a lot of learning and getting used to. That is why it is important to set a Linux goal and have time table associated alongwith. The earlier the version the more geeky it gets.

Personally, I am just collecting some basic info. for now and making my time table and setting a flexible but realistic goal. For now there is no immediate rush for me:

Here is my plan:
1) Get Knoppix and get used to Linux Basics first
2) Read some Manuals to get familiar with that part - These are HUGE.
3) Read web-sites etc.,

The time span for all this about 6 months to a year. Closer to the end of this period, I will be sort of ready for a new PC. It is probably only then, I will install it in my New HD and start using it.

At that time I will have the following advantages:
(1) Lower Price of PC
(2) Better PC
(3) More Familiarity with Linux and
(4) most likely much more user friendly versions of Linux.
(5) by that time, I would have also used my current PC more.

When I am ready to install Linux, I will get the book: Red Hat Linux Bible with CD-ROM a week or two in advance and read it.

Best Regards,

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 14:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some Help to SpeedUp Things.

5. Sams Teach Yourself Red Hat Linux 9 in 24 Hours
Author: Aron Hsiao
Published By: Sams
Book & CD-Rom
ISBN:067232587X
Published: May 2003
Usually ships in 24 hours
List Price:$46.99
Our Price: $32.89


6. Red Hat Linux 9 For Dummies
Author: Jon 'maddog' Hall, Paul G. Sery
Published By: For Dummies
Book & CD-Rom
ISBN:0764539906
Published: May 2003
Usually ships in 24 hours
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From  http://digital.library.upenn.edu/books/ , you can read all about Linux for free. See  http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbi...mode=words 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 16:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corrine, thanks for those links.

I was informed that the dummies books is not that useful and this book below is the best for starters:

1. Red Hat Linux 8 Bible
Author: Christopher Negus, NEGUS
Published By: Wiley
Book & CD-Rom
ISBN:0764549685
Published: October 2002
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List Price:$74.99
Our Price: $52.49
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 Red Hat Linux Bible 
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 Click Here for Another Great Collection of beginners Links from linuxquestions Site 
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A great post from another experienced Linux user assisting new members.
Of special interest is the Linux versions that run on a floppy drive !! Old but Gold Smile

Vijay


I have been doing Linux since 1997. I usually
download my distros. There is a lot I do not know,
but get assistance from LUG members, and Newsgroups,
and I read the how-tos, and the FAQs. But, personal
assistance is best, quickest. Hope some of my
answers help some of you.

Size on the hard drive:

A typical install is about 1175 Mb of hard drive
space. A full install of RedHat9 can be 5Gb of space.

( you probably don't realy NEED to have ALL the
Developer tools!). If you are wanting to run minimal
with only the sawfish window manager you might get
away with about 680 Mb. A terminal console version
(Tom's Boot and Root - 2 floppies!) is about 2.8Mb.
There are some 30 MB business card distros, and some
180-210 Mb mini CD versions, that boot, run from
CDrom!
 http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/KnoppixCustomizations 
Other mini versions:
 http://www.csoft.net/~dummy/robert/bookmar.../index.sht \
ml


firewalls: IPCOP is my very favorite, as it runs from
a 130mb hard drive, on any old 486, with two NIC's.
 ttp://www.ipcop.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/IPCop/WebHome 

Second and third choices are Bering, and the floppy
based ones.
 http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operati...ns/Tiny/Fl \
oppy_Sized/

Security tools:  http://www.knoppix-std.org/ 

Whenever I assemble a different system for a charity,
a foodbank, a family with low resources, I test the
system with a CD of Knoppix, first, it finds the
hardware! Copy config file to floppy (it is on the
menu). Use it for any other distro install!

Sometimes I let it install to the hard drive (in a
console, type: 'sudo /usr/local/bin/knx -hdinstall
and, in 20 to 40 minutes, Debian! (it needs 2.3GB). I
run a minimum of 64 Mb RAM, with a swap mem file of
141Mb. on old 366/400i emachines, others, with
on-board video/sound. Compaq Deskpro 2000's work good
on Storm2000, but, you need to update the 2.2 kernel
for security on the internet, run behind a firewall,
etc.

Cost of distros:
Downloads are free from  http://distrowatch.com 
or, the distro's home, or Freshmeat.net
Hope you got broadband!
Free from me, personally, in Orlando, Florida. Plus,
most LUG's, we all do appreciate you providing the
media.

Cheapbytes.com Very good quality, NEW boxed sets,
OR, the download version starting at 99cents per disc
OR, close out bargains starting at $1.00 !
CompUSA for RedHat ($39 for standard, ? for
professional) Difference? Commercial time trial
applications? Don't need them, myself. Run a good
LAN at home, SAMBA network for a winME system, and the
other dozen are all GNU/Linux, or, BSD distros.

HELP! is at any of the online Linux Users Groups.
520+ are registered at  http://lugww.counter.li.org 
OR, at any of the alt.os.comp.linux.'OSverxxxx'
newsgroups, the MAN on the toolbar, console,
OR, at any of the help forums and how-to FAQ's in a
 http://google.com/linux  search of the distro name.

ON-LINE COLLEGE COURSE, Redhat, $79.00 at:
 http://valenciacc.edu/institute/allonline.cfm#6236 
CFM# is 6236, if you have to search courses manually.
By August 31!

Lots of versions, and books, on ebay!

Join up with the Linux Counter, get counted! see my
sig. file.

Join up with a LUG! 520+ worldwide. Most are FREE!
Attend an Installfest! Bring your computer! Network
with the pros, on a high speed connection! (check out
 http://leap-cf.org  if you are in Florida)

I know I did not answer ALL your questions, but,
please check out my suggestions for searches, and go
to all the URLs in my SIG. and, those listed above!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 9:48 am    Post subject: Article on Linux Bugs/Fixes. Reply with quote

 http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20030124S0013 

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 10:14 am    Post subject: Partition Help Reply with quote

For those who need to Partition their Disk before installing Linux.
 http://www.ranish.com/part/ 
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