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guest8z8
Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 152
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Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 21:19 pm Post subject: Attention: Whoever taught Waltky to copy and paste |
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Attention: Whoever taught Waltky to copy and paste
Please tell him that expressing an opinion means more than just copying that latest technology news and dumping it here.
Get him to express his own ideas. Drowning this site with the wholesale copying of news stories only convinces one that yes, Waltkey sure knows how to copy and paste.
If I want technology news I go here:
http://news.google.com/nwshp?tab=wn&ned=us&topic=t
or here:
http://news.yahoo.com/i/738
And of course, so can anyone else with an internet connection. |
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waltky
Joined: 07 Oct 2002 Posts: 3715 Location: Okolona
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Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 21:54 pm Post subject: |
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You might want to pay attention to the kinds of items I post...
... they pretty well express or agree with my opinion on issues.
Like the old saying goes, "Opinions are like..."
There are those who are more eloquent and informed than I on issues and events, so I use legitimate sources to express and inform in a way better than I could.
I notice that many of the threads I post have a read to reply ratio of 10-20:1, which is pretty good. It indicates an pretty good interest in the topic and a tacit mainstream agreement with the view expressed. That kind of activity also makes for an active and popular board, thus enhancing the board itself by attracting more traffic to it.
If you don't want to read the threads or posts with my name on them, feel free to skip over them or put me on ignore so they won't show up on your screen. _________________ The inability to defend freedom yesterday comes back to haunt us at a great price today and perhaps an even greater price tomorrow |
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hilltown
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Good answer, Walt.  |
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guest8z8
Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 152
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:44 am Post subject: Stories without introductions |
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Looks like my observation was made previously. Count me in with AskMe, Deborah, orillia3 and digger.
http://www.freedomlist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=169293#169293
Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 4:48 am
| Quote: | AskMe wrote:
Comments are needed to explain how some of the posts actually fit into the thread!
Deborah wrote:
I agree. I find all this stuff overwhelming and would appreciate more succinct posts. I feel it leaves little room for actual conversation.
orillia3 wrote:
I would be more interested in waltky's opinions than the cut and paste articles
digger wrote:
Orilla3 and Deborah have it right.
I think I have mentioned it before, but another forum I visit has an informal policy that posing of articles is discouraged unless it includes some kind of relevant commentary or discussion by the poster.
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blackcloud

Joined: 21 Apr 2002 Posts: 614 Location: West Michigan
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 23:26 pm Post subject: |
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this is exactly why, and in fact the only reason that I don't post here anymore. what ever happened to just leave a link to another persons story. _________________ I miss THE KID being here , I wonder how he's doing? I wish Regan was still the president. God Please keep our military safe. Guide them so they never have to shoot, help them shoot strait when they have to shot and help them heal after they go home. |
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digger
๑۞๑ Joined: 29 Mar 2001 Posts: 2655
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 0:42 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I notice that many of the threads I post have a read to reply ratio of 10-20:1, which is pretty good. It indicates an pretty good interest in the topic and a tacit mainstream agreement with the view expressed. That kind of activity also makes for an active and popular board, thus enhancing the board itself by attracting more traffic to it. |
I'm not sure what to say about this. I'd be interested in running some queries against the forum database. Did I mention that I am something of a SQL guru ... Webmaster?
Ah, but you can call my bluff, because if I really meant it I would post the queries. Maybe I would if I was already familiar with the phpBB schema, but I'm lazy and don't feel like looking it up. |
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stinkypeep13

Joined: 24 Nov 2002 Posts: 319 Location: miami
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 0:49 am Post subject: |
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| I know one long time poster who doesn't contribute here anymore. It DOES confuse the General section where it has just become a news posting section and not really good for dialog. Look at the last poster on each thread/ |
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waltky
Joined: 07 Oct 2002 Posts: 3715 Location: Okolona
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:05 am Post subject: |
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Actually the original purpose of forum/message boards was for the dissemination of information. Opinion was secondary.
It was due to posting on Usenet that the story of Tienenman Square was continued to be brought out to the world when the Chinese had shut down the media.
Opinion boards were late in the DOS dial-up days but have grown with the growth of the internet and web browser.
So maybe I'm still old school - I'll plead guilty to that.
But it seems to me that getting the facts out about issues and events is more important than getting one's opinion out.
 _________________ The inability to defend freedom yesterday comes back to haunt us at a great price today and perhaps an even greater price tomorrow |
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blackcloud

Joined: 21 Apr 2002 Posts: 614 Location: West Michigan
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 15:45 pm Post subject: |
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| waltky wrote: | Actually the original purpose of forum/message boards was for the dissemination of information. Opinion was secondary.
It was due to posting on Usenet that the story of Tienenman Square was continued to be brought out to the world when the Chinese had shut down the media.
Opinion boards were late in the DOS dial-up days but have grown with the growth of the internet and web browser.
So maybe I'm still old school - I'll plead guilty to that.
But it seems to me that getting the facts out about issues and events is more important than getting one's opinion out.
 | Well thought out, and well spoken.... by you!!! and thats great weather I agree or not. lord knows I have disagreed with many here. some on almost everything. but they never drove me away. I never learned anything preaching to the quiar, and looked forward to the battle. but I am lazy and stubborn and not willing to look past the articles to find the discussion. don't get me wrong you do list many good articles but I would prefer to take sides with you, or do battle against your thoughts and beliefs and what you personally have taken from those articles. Later BC _________________ I miss THE KID being here , I wonder how he's doing? I wish Regan was still the president. God Please keep our military safe. Guide them so they never have to shoot, help them shoot strait when they have to shot and help them heal after they go home. |
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CaptainTripps

Joined: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 874
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| waltky wrote: | ...But it seems to me that getting the facts out about issues and events is more important than getting one's opinion out.
 | OK, I understand but I get the facts for 99.9% of the articles while checking e-mail at Juno and MyWay via the homepage and a quick visit to the page of the story source - shows the rest. I, too, am guilty of posting news items but the few I've done are mostly in tribute upon the death of a celebrity.
So with that in mind, I don't condemn news posts especially when it's obvious that they'll continue due the admins' overwhelming approval in a previous thread on the subject and the fact that most members would never openly disagree with any admin - regardless of his/her true feelings on the subject. Oh yeah...my opinion? I don't like 'em in such volume!  |
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plodr
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 18:27 pm Post subject: |
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| The General section is exactly as stated - General. If the post is not offensive, it stays. Personally, I rarely read things in the general section because I'm not interested in what is posted. I do the same at other bords - read the sections and/or threads I'm interested in and ignore the rest. (I do the same with newspapers and magazines). |
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Deborah
Joined: 06 Feb 2001 Posts: 4323 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 13:14 pm Post subject: |
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I feel the general section is being continuously bogged down with news stories that I can read myself on the web or in the newspaper. It's often hard for me to get through all this stuff so, I post much less than I used to.
Although, it is not against the rules for these kinds of posts, I would appreciate it if they would stop.
A synopsis or a link which would do just as well. |
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CaptainTripps

Joined: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 874
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| Deborah wrote: | | I feel the general section is being continuously bogged down with news stories that I can read myself on the web or in the newspaper. It's often hard for me to get through all this stuff so, I post much less than I used to. | It seems that most people post much less than they used to. It's got to the point where there's seldom any discussion threads started which was (for me) a big part of the appeal of this forum. I haven't been a high quantity contributor to the forum but I tried to contribute with quality replies and posts. It used to be easy to sort through the chaff to get to the good stuff but it's too overwhelming now so I give up and leave the forum to the youngsters.
Now I am...  |
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pete
 ๑۞๑ Joined: 29 Apr 2002 Posts: 2608
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:05 am Post subject: |
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I'm not really advocating this, but food for thought....
I belong to another forum where Waltky's contributions are appreciated. Most of them are posted in a seperate section called "News".
The "general" section here at FreedomList appears to have been "taken over" by the political malcontents.
Perhaps, the administrators should consider adding a few sub-forums under general (eg. "News", "politics"). The friendlier and less serious discussion could remain in the main General section for those who aren't interested in having our own private news feed, or in the endless political bashing. |
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blsJason
Administrator Joined: 01 Aug 2001 Posts: 2866 Location: Pacific Northwest
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 22:57 pm Post subject: Re: News/political posts |
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Political bashing seems to be going on at just about every forum that doesn't have a 'no politics at all' policy. IMO, I don't think it will get any better anytime soon.
Previously, we thought about having some separate forums/subforums, at that time it was decided against because we thought it would attract even more political and/or news posts. _________________ Poetworld subscriber 2002-2012.
Don't buy Clearwire! |
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Corrine
 Administrator Joined: 18 Jan 2001 Posts: 13527 Location: Upstate, NY
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R Vijay
 ๑۞๑ Joined: 12 Jun 2001 Posts: 4538 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| Corrine wrote: | | http://www.freedomlist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=175667#175667 |
This is a good move hopefuly. While I Like reading Waltky's posts here, those are serious topics and are overwhelming (Just like most of my previous related topics eg., on Global Warming.) So, on a Friday evening/weekend etc., sometimes it is just nice to come here and share something fun and have a chat with other Freedomlisters.
Hopefully, the new forum will assist in this regard.
Vijay _________________
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pete
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Nice choice if title...Kills two birds with one stone, and probably won't act like a magnet for political operatives.
BTW:
I just saw a "Pending" message from a guest in the new subforum.
Will guests be participating in News Reports & Discussion, or was it just an oversight when the new catagory was created? |
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Corrine
 Administrator Joined: 18 Jan 2001 Posts: 13527 Location: Upstate, NY
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Oops, I thought I got all the "guest" posts. It was an oversight when I created the subforum -- forgot to change "public" to "registered".
We may find it necessary to move posts to that forum for a while, but it should make a difference in the long run -- for both "sides of the fence"; those who wish to post and participate in news and/or political-related content and those who find that content disrupts the flow of the "friendlier and less serious discussions". _________________ Freedomlist.com (March 1, 2000 - 2013)
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waltky
Joined: 07 Oct 2002 Posts: 3715 Location: Okolona
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 20:00 pm Post subject: |
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Just came across this again...
... the new forum seems to be a common sense solution. Those who aren't interested in geopolitical events and ecological issues don't have to patronize the new sub-forum.
Is fine with me.
Some of the other topics (at the moderator's discretion) in General might also be moved to News to help allay any complaints. _________________ The inability to defend freedom yesterday comes back to haunt us at a great price today and perhaps an even greater price tomorrow |
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